never watched supernatural so i always assumed the homoeroticism between cas and dean was like. SUBTEXT subtext. buried deep. but i just watched a youtube compilation of their gayest moments and ………. you guys were mere quivering touch-starved fish on the hook of some sadistic-ass fishermen, weren’t you? you were ROBBED robbed. mugged in the alley. taken out back and shot. jesus christ.
okay so there’s this show about two brothers who drive around the american midwest hunting monsters but i SHIT YOU NOT it ends as a queer telenovela in this essay i will-
the way that we are merely a collective of jesters (supernatural fandom) performing for the entertainment of the court (mutuals who do not watch supernatural) and tonight everyone who does not watch this show is logging onto tumblr dot com to watch all of us Fools jingle miserably across the floor
It's been bothering me seeing some comments in the dw fandom along the lines of "ugh most female companions were like 18-19, barely adults" or "what a creep" (I've seen this especially directed towards the Doctor and Rose's relationship) and I'm just like... YOU ARE MISSING THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE SHOW. The Doctor isn't some kind of predatorial weirdo with a fetish for young girls, they're just a space wanderer that tries to do good and fix things and they just happen to meet (1/3)
some brilliant people along the way and they invite them on board! They literally say yes!!! DW is about ordinary people discovering the wonders of the universe and having adventures, it may have its flaws, but there isn’t an ounce of weird sexual subtext or advances towards companions in the ENTIRE SHOW, they are always treated with utmost respect in that sense. And trying to judge Rose’s relationship with the Doctor through that lens is just wrong and a total misinterpretation (2/3)
Sorry this turned out saltier than expected, but I’d like to know what you think (3/3)
you know what’s interesting? people who are bothered by the age gap between the doctor and rose, but aren’t bothered by a certain character being literally born - groomed from childhood, you might say - to be obsessed with the doctor. or a child who spent her whole life in an abandoned house, waiting for the man in the blue box to come back, and her immediately falling for him despite literally being engaged. i’m interested in why people seem to apply this incredibly harsh lens to rose’s time on the show, claiming that she’s too young, claiming that the doctor was taking advantage of her, but they don’t really notice that there are other, more pressing examples of actual imbalanced, unhealthy relationships shown on doctor who.
you see, the problem - for me, anyway - is agency.
i can agree that some characters throughout the show have been intensely lacking in agency. they’ve been coerced into traveling with the doctor, or manipulated in some way. they’ve even been caught on the ship by accident. they’ve done it out of obligation, or guilt, or fear.
but rose is not one of those characters.
when the doctor meets rose, he saves her and then expects nothing of her. he intends to leave her alone, until circumstances throw them together again.
when the doctor invites rose to come along with him, she says no. and he even leaves - though he does come back and ask again, obviously. but she has the option not to go.
when rose is trapped with him on platform one, she gripes about not being able to call a cab. he fixes her phone for her, so she can call home.
rose has agency, almost constantly throughout the show. she always has the option to go home; in fact, one of the central points of nine’s run is his promise to always bring her home to her mother. and he doesn’t just try to give her that agency - rose demands it. because, whether she’s nineteen or ninety, she was written as a woman who is intensely curious, compassionate, and able to make her own decisions.
sure, she’s young. but she has agency. that’s why we all like her so much, and why rose fans feel like she’s more than a match for the doctor, despite not being a bespoke, custom-bred secret agent designed to snog the doctor.
and on that subject, saying that all the female companions were super young is erasure of about fifty years of companions who weren’t. it’s literally just factually wrong. i guess barbara and polly and liz and jo and romana (though she’s not human, so idk) and tegan and melanie and all the others who were in their twenties and beyond… can just get fucked? i mean, i’m certainly not an expert in the timelines of every classic who companion, but they certainly haven’t all been teenagers, and they definitely weren’t all romantic partners or something. the doctor isn’t a serial teenage-kidnapper. that’s not a thing.
tl;dr - you’re right and also rose is fabulous because she has agency and also people who want to gripe about her should probably stop tagging her name or use an anti tag so the rest of us don’t have to suffer through this nonsense.
people who are bothered by the age gap between the doctor and rose, but aren’t bothered by a certain character being literally born - groomed from childhood, you might say - to be obsessed with the doctor. or a child who spent her whole life in an abandoned house, waiting for the man in the blue box to come back, and her immediately falling for him despite literally being engaged.
LOUDER FOR PEOPLE IN THE BACK!
I honestly don’t understand how people don’t see that as creepy. Especially when it’s clear the Doctor doesn’t always reciprocate the affection these women push on him.
There was a very clear and natural progression to the Doctor and Rose’s relationship. It was also not love at first sight. They became best friends first, and then fell in love. (I think around Aliens of London / World War Three)
It always bothered me when that certain character that shall not be named (but it will be obvious who I’m talking about anyways) pretty much told the Doctor, “I’m your future wife.” And then the whole ‘romance’ part of their relationship was so forced.
As I said before, I don’t hate her as a character and I think that she could have been very interesting if they just removed the ‘romantic’ part completely.
M*ffat wouldn’t know a loving relationship if it smacked him in the face.
So can we talk about the scene in The Search For Spock when Kirk and co. have gotten onto the Enterprise and are about to steal it
And Kirk tells them they can back out and everyone says, of course, hell no
And we get this most adorable album cover of smiles
And then Kirk with this look of utter adoration tells them to get to their stations
And everyone else goes off to a console to actually do something
But Bones just immediately walks over to stand next to the Captain’s chair and offer commentary, because he clearly considers his “station” to literally be that of Kirk’s right-hand man
and it’s where he belongs <3
Okay, but …
… you know, I just gotta say …
Usually McCoy stands on his left and Spock on his right
Kirk has two hands and Bones is responsible for both of them right now
So here’s the interesting thing about where McCoy stands (and I admit, I seized on the “right-hand man” pun without fully thinking about McCoy’s usual stance).
McCoy stands on Kirk’s left side, and the left side of the captain’s chair, most of the time.
But there are some exceptions.
Most of them have something to do with a disruption to the natural order of things (Kirk in the middle, McCoy to his left, Spock to his right). The first kind of disruption is when Kirk isn’t captain at the moment.
When Bones fighting with the idea of Spock as leader (the middle of The Tholian Web, The Galileo Seven) he tends to stand on his left. It seems to be a visual representation of McCoy refusing to relinquish his traditional spot on Jim’s left side, and thus refusing to accept a change in leadership.
When McCoy is supporting Spock as temporary captain while Jim is in peril (The Doomsday Machine, the end of The Tholian Web, Arena), he stands on Spock’s right side.
The clearest example of this is in Arena, where he starts in his normal spot and moves over when he fully registers what’s happened; he literally invites Spock into the chair, and then moves to Spock’s normal spot.
At the end of The Tholian Web, he’s still to Kirk’s left, but to Spock’s right.
The second type of disruption occurs when Spock is in danger. When Spock is out of the picture, or when McCoy is extremely worried for Spock, he tends to stand on Jim’s right, where Spock should be. This happens both on the Bridge (Operation: Annihilate!)
and elsewhere (A Private Little War).
This also happens when Spock is taken over by an alien entity, such as Kollos (Is There in Truth No Beauty?) You can see McCoy saving Spock’s rightful spot here.
When Spock has been taken over by Henoch (Return to Tomorrow) and is in the captain’s chair, McCoy is desperately trying to save his life: again, standing at his right side.
The best representation of the “Spock in Peril Switch,” though, is in The Immunity Syndrome. After Spock leaves the ship, McCoy stands at Jim’s right - both by the Captain’s chair and everywhere else.
It’s like he’s keeping Spock’s spot warm; he always has hope that Spock will return, and speaks to this perhaps more directly in this episode than any other (until, of course, his speech to Spock’s comatose body in The Search For Spock). “Spock. Is it me, Jim? Am I so sentimental that I just have to keep believing that he’s still alive in that mass of protoplasm?” Even Spock makes a joke that McCoy is out of order, calling him “Captain McCoy.”
But as soon as they find out Spock’s alive and they’re pulling him to safety? Watch McCoy move.
So, yes, upon more thought, that seems to be what Bones is doing here. He’s keeping hope (and Spock) alive, standing in his place, and keeping it safe for him.
if my friend told me they believed they were stuck in a time loop i would simply believe them
friend: i know this sounds insane i KNOW but i’m TELLING you i’ve lived this day already SO MANY times and…i think i’m in a time loop
me: okay
friend: i need you to trust m-okay?
me: okay. walk me through the entire day, and everything you’ve done during the time loop. let me help you break it.
this is why i have a time loop code, which i thought of and have never written down or spoken, all someone needs to do is tell me it and i’ll know they got it from me in a previous loop
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